More than three-quarters of Halifax’s population drives or gets a drive to work, passing up public transit. (TED PRITCHARD / Staff / File)
OTTAWA — The car is still king when it comes to commuting in the Halifax region as new census data shows that more than six times as many people use a vehicle to get to work than use public transit.
Statistics Canada released Tuesday more information from the 2006 census, including details on where Canadians work, how they most often get there and how long they travel.
The census shows there are 186,000 commuters in what’s known as the census metropolitan area of Halifax and that 75.8 per cent of them either drive to work or are passengers in someone else’s vehicle.
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Odoyle wrote:
The city should be doing everything in its power to install commuter rail as an option but we tend not to think in terms of positive change down here. Calgary has a commuter rail system that pays for itself because its powered by wind and its well used.
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If people are still going to be stuck all day in the traffic on the roads they are going to choose their cars because at least they can relax more and listen to radio or cds rather than stand on overcrowded buses amongst smelly people for hours. Commuter rail bypasses roads and allows people to move faster.
The Sentinel wrote:
The reason nobody uses the transit system in Halifax is because it is unreliable, innefficient and rarely on time. Not to mention, at 70 plus dollars per month, the value isnt there for a transit pass either. I would gladly use a mass transit service if it even approached a usable state.
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It’s fine if you live withing a few miles of downtown but after that its a 1 or 2 hour commute on a bus that zigzags through ten neighbourhoods before it even gets near downtown. That’s only if you don’t have to transfer once or more in between. Too much of the cost of having Halifax Metro Transit goes to paying salaries that are overblown.
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Why do we need to pay ridiculous salaries for driving a bus? It’s a bus. Combine this with paying some drivers time and a half and double time (thanks to the union) and we cant afford to spend the money where it should be spent….on improving the service. Why do we need to spend a zillion dollars on having EVERY bus wheelchair accessible. I have not once seen a person in a wheelchair on a metro transit bus, yet we spend millions on buses that have removed passenger seating in favor of wheelchair areas that never get used.
Scrappy6499 wrote:
Metro Transit…What a joke. Too many times have I seen overloaded buses drive right past waiting commuters. The service is a joke, they have routes that need particular buses,the long ones, but you don’t see them.
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Prime example, I live out on the way to Herring Cove, at night, on the 4:37 run, a double bus would be prudent, but what happens is we get one of the new ones, and then when we get to Mumford, we can only accept a handful, because the bus is full.
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But the silly thing is, now we see these double buses on week-ends when they are not needed. It all comes down to poor planning. The service is poor, for the money we pay for it. Yet our civic leaders wish us to utilize this service. Myself, I will continue driving my car until service improves…
DARTMOUTHMAN wrote:
It seems strange that the HRM’s response to encourage more people to use the transit system was to buy smaller buses and pack people in like sardines.The choice is easy when faced with that.
David fm CH wrote:
Cities should build up instead of out. This would increase by far the number of folks who would be able to commute on foot or via mass transit.
spindoc wrote:
These stats don’t shock me at all. Considering that the bus has to travel the same roadways that cars do, why wouldn’t you drive to work, unless parking was an issue for you. Now, when I lived in Toronto, I almost always took the subway to work. It was much faster, a train would arrive between 2-3 minutes during rush hour, and it saved a good chunk of change. But here, with the bus, public transit just doesn’t appeal to me.
mishel24 wrote:
It’s time for rail. The whole province would benefit if we had rail into Halifax from all corners. People could commute from all over to work in the city and then get home quickly!! IT IS WAY PAST IT’S TIME… I HATE driving, yet I must drive to work every day because I work outside of the downtown core and the bus would take an hour for what takes 20 minutes by car. ridiculous. I hate driving, and I want to preserve the environment, but with kids to pick up… I have no choice. If I took the bus I’d be picking them up at 7 PM!!
Halifax wrote:
I use the transit system in Halifax a lot and usually they are right on time–most often to the minute! That amazes me. With just a few exceptions, most of the bus drivers are very friendly. I wish I could say the same about most of the passengers. If a bus is even a few minutes late, they grumble and growl. Just like a bunch of little kids.
Tina_in_Halifax wrote:
I gave up on metro transit, I use to use it to get back and forth to University and then to work. I got sick and tired of late buses, no organization on connection of routes, buses that wouldn’t even show when scheduled and then you catch the next scheduled one and there would be 2 right in a row…it was so frustrating I’d rather pay the $350/month for my vehicle, the $100/month for insurance, the $90/month for parking and the $1500/month for gas (ok not that bad hahaha but close). I have lived in Ottawa and the buses there run so smooth, you hardly have to wait and you get home 10 times quicker than if you drove so it is much more reliable. Sorry guys but metro transit here SUCKS!!!!
Niki_Storme wrote:
I’ve visited several cities in Europe where commuting by public transportation is favored - in Ireland, they have actual “bus lanes” that only buses are allowed to use; therefore, while everyone is sitting in traffic, the bus drives right through… they use double-Decker buses as well, so more people are fitting in the vehicle.
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Roads have been made smaller to accommodate pedestrians and buses, thus making driving very inconvenient! You could take a bus, train, or ferry anywhere over there for next to nothing… I think that’s the idea - for the city to make it less convenient to drive and more convenient to take public transportation. Then again, there’s always someone to complain about something making it much easier to suggest then actually “do”.
Holly G wrote:
I do use the transit system and wish they’d make some much needed adjustments. It’s nice to say that the bus meets the ferry, but often the ferry is leaving as the bus is pulling in. If Metro Transit has to do schedule adjustments to ensure that commuters can catch the ferry due to heavier traffic at rush hours, then do so.
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Also, when you do write to Metro Transit to voice a complaint they don’t respond. Add extra crossing to the Woodside Ferry, PLEASE. Why does it have to shut down from 10 am to 3 pm? More people WOULD utilize that ferry if it ran all day. You have that as a resource, so why not fully utilize it?
Dartmouth’s better wrote:
This is no surprise. We need to limit our population growth. There are enough people and cars here now.
thevoice wrote:
I wonder what the percentage of people who live in the rural area’s of HRM that metro transit does not service would be apart of this number?
Manda-Pictou wrote:
I take the bus every day to work and had a friendly employee not taken pity on me and offered a drive home I would also have to take it home, normally a 10 min drive, it is 45 on the bus. There are numerous times since I began taking the bus that I have encountered problems. I have only been since July and the number of times I’ve been disappointed by metro transit is astounding.
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Once I was standing beside the bus stop and it drove right on by, the bus was nearly empty and the driver didn’t even look at me. I have waited 20 minutes for the bus, which runs every half an hour!. 4 other different times I went out to wait for the bus, I called the Go Time number and it said the bus will depart in 4 minutes, I waited for 15 minutes and gave up, the bus had come early!! Now call me crazy but I’m pretty sure they aren’t allowed to come early.
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I had to walk to a bus terminal to catch a different bus, when I was early for the original scheduled time! I am one to do the little things we all can for the environment and normally I wouldn’t have a problem using a reliable metro transit service. I also know not all buses have problems and some drivers are very considerate and understanding, but the experiences I’ve had make me want to buy a car ASAP.
rhharley wrote:
It’s still better than Lethbridge Transit…
stephaniek wrote:
I have to admit. I use the metro transit everyday to and from work, I will say some days its not so bad. other I want to scream.
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There are times when my bus will pull into mumford and my connecting bus will not wait that extra min (even if you get them to call ahead, and that’s IF they will call ahead a lot of drivers wont) then you get stuck waiting 30-45mins wait for a bus that will be so over packed because they thought it would be a smart idea to have
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ALL standing room and no seats on a bus, sorry but when I work all damn day on my feet, and I have to pay 60.00 a month for a pass Im not wanting to stand on a bus its retarded! Not to mention when the bus’s are too full they wont let you get on and they yell to move back and when you cant pack on anymore ppl the drivers get a lil cranky.
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It’s just not all that practical. It sucks! when it’s cold and raining/snowing and your bus is 10-15 mins late then you are now late for your connecting bus’ its a pain. Sorry but I agree I have been on bus’s in Ottawa…. much better!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need to change something…. P.S the 52bayers lake between 4-6pm YOU NEED A DOUBLE BUS not one of these bus’s for wheelchair access… sorry isnt that why they have access a bus???????
Marky Mark wrote:
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Commuter rail must become a BIG priority for the council and mayor that gets elected this fall. Commuter rail should also be a BIG priority for the provincial political parties that are jockeying for an election whenever the minority government falls.
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Halifax’s growth is stymied by lack of adequate access for people on and off the peninsula. Major institutions and employers are not moving off the peninsula (and they are only growing in size), therefore we must introduce sustainable non-road methods of moving people.
We are fortunate that abandoned rail corridors have been preserved along the south shore and eastern shore that parallel highways 103 and 107 to communities where commuters live. We are also very fortunate that active rail corridors parallel highways 102 and 118 and 101. A commuter rail system could be activated in HRM for far less money than it would cost to acquire and build new rail corridors. ]
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If we used Light Rail Transit, similar to what Ottawa or Portland, Oregon or even Calgary/Edmonton has, we could create a loop on the peninsula by running trains down the route to the existing VIA station, then in tracks set in Water Street (remove 1 lane for cars/trucks) to the ferry terminal and continue up past the casino where an abandoned rail corridor stretches from there through the dockyard to Richmond and back to Fairview.
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The rail corridors already run in close proximity to Enfield, Elmsdale, Bedford, Fall River, Waverley, Mount St. Vincent, Dalhousie, SMU, Burnside, Bayers Lake, Timberlea, Tantallon, the Dartmouth waterfront, Eastern Passage, Lawrencetown…. The Sambro Loop/Prospect area is really one of the only commuter regions in HRM which does not have an abandoned or active rail corridor nearby that could be used for commuter rail.
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Commuter rail would be a far larger project than HRM taxpayers can afford and since it impacts provincially funded highways (removing traffic from them) and reduces air pollution, the provincial and federal governments should be brought on-side to provide a similar level of funding as was provided in the precedents to establish GO Transit, the C-train, etc.
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The fast ferry is a distraction from what really needs to get done with getting people out of their cars and providing a reliable, fast and non-road transport system for getting to and from home to work, school, etc.
Chris_NS wrote:
It costs me about $130/month to take my car to work with my wife - 1 hour round trip. It costs me about $142/month to take the bus to work with my wife - 2 hours round trip. No brainer.
Lilli047 wrote:
Halifax will never really be world class until their transit system reflects this priority. If the current price of gas can’t get people to switch, there must be a problem.
voiceofreality wrote:
It’s not like we didn’t already know this. Why would anyone who can afford it choose to sit next to the dregs of society, waiting for every one of them to get on and off?
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Why stand in the cold or rain waiting when you can be in the air conditioned or heated comfort of your car? Duh. Based on the results of this informatin, the city should be making bigger roads for us, more parking available and getting traffic obstacles like bicycles and buses out of the way. The majority has spoken - embrace it.
GossipGirl wrote:
Unfortunately Halifax is the most unfriendly city for commuters. I considered taking the bus from my home to downtown, but with 2 bus transfers and the most indirect route possible, a commute that would normally take 20 minutes by car takes well over an hour. My time is precious and there are better things I could be doing than sitting on numerous buses over an hour.
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There is ample space and opportunity for HRM to install a commuter rail or develop more user friendly park and ride shuttle buses. High speed ferries from the Bedford area are all fine and dandy for people living in that area, but for people like myself who live out in Beechville, Lakeside, Timberlea, Hubley and Tantallon, we really don’t have any options at all. If the city wants us to be more green, happy transit users, than give us a system that works, that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg and gets you from point A to point B in 1/2 an hour or less.
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wordsmith wrote:
You cannot expect people to quit using cars if your transit system is so poorly organized. Why the government has not even thought about getting a rail system is truly beyond all logical reasons.
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In Montreal, we have a system that goes almost everywhere, and we can always rely on a train every 15 minutes from 5:30 am till a little after midnight. The only time we have a bus that runs hourly is the overnight buses.
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Here, it’s not even convenient to travel by bus. I think it’s time the government wake up from their slumber and do something about providing the citizens in Halifax, Dartmouth, Bedford,etc… with a decent rail system.
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If you want people to take the public transport, you have to give them a better reason. Not unless you’re trying to keep the people in their cars because you want to sell gas.
- admiralBS wrote:
your govt has better stop living in the past. instead of expropriating houses along your avenues to widen the roads and aggravate your homeowners . to destroy the lovely foliage in those old colonial houses areas. the city is well-spaced for a rail transit system, and the only reason why you don’t hear anything about it is because you, the people, are not making enough demands for it.
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you hew and haw about how rotten the arteries are, and how bad the buses are. all this is not going to change without a rail system. it’s not like it’s something amazing new . anyone who has travelled across your fair land knows a metro rail system works. the only ones who thinks it doesn’t are your political fathers. time to shove the idea into their faces. wake them up from their myopic mentality. failing that, i guess you will have to ask for an election.
Hard to Believe wrote:
Four working members in my household - One must drive for his job the remaining three of us - All within 5 KM’s of home but an hour to take a bus to work and then quite a walk from the bus stop when we can drive in less than 15 mins.
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I guess that is self-explanatory. Large numbers of individuals work in Burnside - Have a look at access by bus. That will explain why everyone does drive. I bet most Bus Drivers take a vehicle rather than a bus to Burnside.
eastcoaster wrote:
Niki_Storme,
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Ireland has a better transit system because of the size of the country. It’s small!! If you travel all over Ireland (I have), you’d notice the only area with larger roads are the “M” series highways.
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All the roads are narrow. You’d also notice people over there aren’t in a rush to get from point A to point B like they are in alot of cities. Also, another reason there aren’t as many cars on the road isn’t because of some grand conspiracy to force them off with narrow roads and increasing public transit.
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It comes with the fact these cities are hundreds and thousands of years old. The layout of Dublin, for example, was started over 1000 years ago. I’m pretty sure public transit wasn’t thought of back then.
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Additionally, when you are paying 3 to 4 dollars a liter for gasoline, that’s also a pretty good incentive to walk, ride a bike or take the bus. We’ve got it pretty good when it comes to gas prices.
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As for our transit system, I use it on a regular basis and I haven’t had any problems with it. I find the drivers of the bus I’m on are friendly and, while yes, it can take the scenic route I’m still getting home in enough time to have supper and go to my childs activities.
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For those that find the drivers to be rude, I beg to differ. Many times on the route to my home, the driver has waited for people, helped others onto the bus with their bags and, like most people, they smile when you say Thank You.
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That’s all you have to do folks, be polite. You get out of life what you put into life. On a final note, I do think a rail link into the city would be an excellent idea.
Bobby wrote:
I did use the bus at one time but quickly got tired of it. The cut backs in service and routes while drivers were oddly getting raises, hardly keeps time and many other reasons is why I gave up and opted to drive myself around this city.
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The transit system has been sub-par since the early 90’s and isn’t getting any better. People don’t want to pay into something that forces them on late buses that are likely overcrowded.
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My girlfriend is constantly calling me to pick her up because the bus is 10-15 minutes late as usual. It’s funny. I’ve used the Toronto Transit system quite a bit and for a city of that size and complexity, they can manage to run an efficient and timely system…why can’t Halifax? I blame the cats of course
123654 wrote:
In order to get anywhere on Metro Transit you have to be willing to jump on whatever bus happens to be passing the stop you are at and maneuver your way to where you are going. Perhaps an eager candidate for mayor could make this lack of service an election issue - he/she would get my vote for sure.
jvangurp wrote:
If you are lucky (like me) you can walk back and forth to work. I’ve been doing that for around 12 years now no matter what the weather and it’s a great way to commute. Sure there’s a trade-off; little house, close neighbours, city noise, etc, but it eliminates car and vehicle use for so very many things.
Miranda wrote:
Metro Transit is horribly inefficient. I live 14 km from work, and I can cycle there in less time than it takes to get there on the bus. So that’s what I do. I do take the bus in the winter, and it’s a nightmare.
anjo jabril wrote:
It’s pretty obvious that many of us here are no strangers to the light rail transit (eg. toronto go train, montreal metro, calgary c train, vancouver sky bus,etc). we all know how efficient they are. it’s no surprise that one uses the train to commute to work even if one lives outside the metropolis. it’s fast, it’s clean, it’s safe,etc. it’s cheap too. as for the same price you pay here to cram into a bus like sardines, and having to wait and even miss buses on a crummy day, montrealers and others enjoy the comforts of a train with park and ride and we can get to almost anywhere we want , MUCH FASTER THAN A CAR.
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your reader from toronto is right. after i sold my car in 2001, i never bought another. each time i made an arrangement to meet my friends who drove, i always end up in the pub 15-20 mins earlier than them, even though i lived out of town. sometimes, they even arrived an hour later than me, due to being unable to find a parking spot. WAKE YOUE POLITICIANS UP, oh dear dear halifax, dartmouth,etc… you have such a lovely city and vicinity. pity your politicians are so obstinate to keep newcomers and faithful haligonians,etc from enjoying the rest of the area. SHAME ON YOU, especially when your people voted you in to make their lives more comfortable. Not make it worse.
thomas c wrote:
Metro Transit (the buses and ferries) need a complete overall. Somebody needs to sit down and look and the overall service and radically change the system. Major bus routes run too infrequently, small buses lead to overcrowding (often) - turning off anyone with a choice from choosing mass transit.
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Another issue is that there are too many stops in too short a distance - examples of this: 1) #17, 18 & 82 outbound on Windsor St from North to Hood St.; 2) 1, 7, 9, 10, 80, etc… anywhere on Barrington St from Scotia Square to Spring Garden Rd; 3) 7, 17, 18 & 80 inbound on Robie from Cunard to Spring Garden / Coburg; 4) #4 & 52 outbound from Mumford Terminal via Mumford and Joe Howe to Bayers Rd. Shall I continue?
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This ridiculous set up slows commute times, frustrates riders and solidifies the preception that Metro Transit is a waste of time.
CCRking wrote:
Wider roads, bicycle paths? my goodness, are you only seeing within your near-sighted vision. Buy a little house near the center. Where do you find that? And you want to compete against the other cities to lure big business with an inefficient metro system? What century have you been locked in a time-warp? lol.
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Have you ever driven in a city where roads were widened, that cars zipped through each other like ants along a rainforest trail? I have! Rio De Janeiro, Sao Paulo, (Brazil), Boston Mass, USA, New York City,etc… The roads can only be widened for so long. As cars fill the traffic, it will soon become just as bad as you have today.
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Stop smoking those funny weed and still think this is the 70’s. Get a light rail system. It costs commuters all over Canada just about the same as your bus-riders here each month. You are so cheated by your leaders.
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I feel sorry for you. Ask any Haligonians or Nova Scotians who are working in Montreal, Calgary, Toronto,etc.. if they have a car. Except for a minority, you will be told, “Yes, I do, but I take the metro to work.”
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Listen to the people. Listen to the people. Listen to the people.GET RAIL !